The Psycho Realm (1997, 57.32) **/T½
|Psycho City Blocks/Psycho Interlude
The Big Payback
Doors Intro/Confessions of a Drug Addict
Who Are You Interlude/Bullets
|Love Letters Intro/Love From the Sick Side
La Conecta Intro/La Conecta (pt. 1)
La Conecta (pt. 2)/Goin' in Circles Outro
In order to take The Psycho Realm at all seriously, you have to take one thing for granted: in their hip-hop world, words/lyrics/'rhymes'/whatever assume far greater importance than the actual musical content, leaving those of us on the outside bewildered and bored after about half the first track. The Psycho Realm is French hip-hop with English-language rapping, presumably in an attempt to appeal to the international audience, although I've no idea whether or not they've actually managed to achieve this. In fairness, the album isn't completely predictable, with a harpsichord part on Preminitions, although it's probably a series of lengthy samples rather than someone actually playing all the way through. In fact, several tracks feature classical samples; they've probably worked out a way not to have to pay royalties on them, while giving them a minor advantage over their competitors by doing something slightly different, while not being different enough to entirely alienate the typical rather conservative hip-hop fan. Cynical? Moi?
Mellotron on a few tracks from Randy Cantor, with a couple of string chords on Psycho Interlude that sound 'played once, then sampled', with 'proper', albeit boring playing on The Big Payback and Temporary Insanity. It's probably at its most obvious on Who Are You Interlude, although it sounds like a sampled phrase again, with more of the same on Love From The Sick Side, after the particularly obnoxious Love Letters Intro. Why does this stuff have to be so aggressive, and why is everyone a 'motherfucker', motherfucker? Tediously, unthinkingly sheeplike. More of the same on Psyclones, and that's your lot. If you were to add up the minutes of 'Tron use here, it would probably be relatively high, but if you could add up the amount of time Cantor actually played it, the figure would be very different, which accounts for the low T rating above.
So; do you give a shit about what some bunch of blokes feel they need to go around shouting about? Pretty much a central tenet with this stuff, so unless you synpathise with, er, whatever injustice it is they're going on about, you're probably going to be left pretty cold by this. I know I was. A surprising amount of Mellotron, although the bulk of it seems to be odd phrases sampled and repeated ad nauseam in typical hip-hop style. Y'know what, chaps? Do something REALLY outrageous: record an album using real musicians throughout and eschew repetition for creativity. Oh, sorry; I suppose you'd evolve out of your style completely, and your fanbase would evaporate. Typical.
We Are Just as Welcome as Holy Water in Satan's Drink (1999, 37.10) ***/½
|Down in Flames
Good for Nothing at All
Stranded (for Holly Ramone)
Dear Life: Sweet Nothing
Cold Heart Disaster
Back for Good
The title of Psychopunch's We Are Just as Welcome as Holy Water in Satan's Drink might give you some idea where this lot are coming from: raucous garage-metal, punk, rock'n'roll... Obvious influences include The Sex Pistols and AC/DC, two bands once considered mortal enemies, a viewpoint that looks a little anachronistic three decades on. It's full of anthems to taking drugs and fucking like Straightjacket Hell, Cold Heart Disaster and crazed closer Back For Good; difficult to disagree with, frankly, assuming you have even a drop of rock'n'roll in your soul. If the album has a fault, it's that it's rather one-dimensional, but variety's never been this genre's strong point, has it?
Jonas Stålhammar plays Mellotron on two tracks, with background choirs on Straightjacket Hell and even more background strings on Stranded (For Holly Ramone). Real? Hard to say; the string note at the end of Stranded holds for just about the maximum time and wobbles slightly in the middle, so maybe it is. Anyway, decidedly not worth it for the Mellotron, but a good, raw blast of kick-you-in-the-teeth rock'n'roll.
Nice (2003, 48.53) ***½/T
Angel of Love
Long Beach Nightmare
Your Love is a Drug
|K2G (Kimi Ni Go!)
Teen Titans Theme
Bring it! (2009, 48.02) ***/T½
|I Don't Wanna
Shuen no Onna
Twilight Shooting Star!
|All Because of You
Anata to Watashi
Bring it on
Puffy, or Puffy AmiYumi outside Japan (due to a threatened lawsuit from that buffoon Sean "Puffy"/"Puff Daddy"/"Puff Diddy"/Puff-whatever-the-fuck) are the female duo of Ami Onuki and Yumi Yoshimura, solo artists for Sony who teamed up and hit big, selling millions of albums in their native country. They have had their own TV show and even a cartoon series in the States, where they appeal strongly to pre-teens, as far as I can work out. Given that they were named and are produced by ex-Jellyfish drummer Andy Sturmer, giving them a vastly better sound than most J-Pop, with loads of powerpop and other American influences, I think this can generally be regarded as a Good Thing. OK, you may be put off by the typically cutesy girl vocals (mostly in Japanese), but, going by 2003's Nice, songs of the quality of Planet Tokyo, Sayonara and Invisible Tomorrow put this several levels above what you might expect. Sturmer's credited with Mellotron and Chris James with Chamberlin, but all I can hear are (Mellotron?) flutes and (Chamberlin?) strings on Angel Of Love, although I'm sure they're buried away elsewhere on the album. Nice John and Yoko reference on the sleeve, too.
Six years and several albums on, Bring it! appeared in 2009. Nominally very similar to Nice, I'm afraid to say that the material's rather less appealing, although not enough to mark it down too heavily, although I have to mention parts of Anata To Watashi's similarity to 10cc's The Things We Do For Love. Uncredited Mellotron (and Chamberlin?), with a nice string part on Bye Bye and some background flute chords on My Hero!, Hare Onna and All Because Of You, although none of it adds up to all that much, really.
So; two albums in a similar style, one rather better than the other, proving the point that it's all down to the songwriting at the end of the day. More tape-replay work on Bring it! than on Nice, but the latter's single track is more impressive than any of the four on the former.
Windfall (2015, 35.52) ***½/½
Stay and Dance
Burn and Shine
O My Chesapeake
|Pair of Shadows
If it Still Can't Be Found
I can't imagine no-one else has noticed, but, on the sleeve of Joe Pug(liese)'s Windfall, he looks exactly like a young Jonathan Ross (famous UK TV presenter, for Americans), for his sins. That aside, his third release, 2015's Windfall, is a bleak (but in a good way), country-inflected singer-songwriter album, the sparse arrangements only serving to accentuate Pug's studied lyricism. Highlights? Opener Bright Beginnings, The Measure and O My Chesapeake, complete with pedal-steel, but, if truth be told, there ain't a bad track here.
Wilco's Pat Sansone plays Mellotron, with somewhat background strings on closer If It Still Can't Be Found, although whether or not they're real can only be a matter for conjecture. Is this Wilco's MkVII? Or their digital machine? Or something else entirely? Anyway, hardly a reason to hear this album, although the songs are.
Jollity (2005, 44.01) ****/T½
|It's Nice to Be Nice
A Rose in a Garden of Weeds
I Want You Back in My Life
This Could Be Good
Eleven Modern Antiquities (2008, 37.34) ****/TTT½
|Take Me Away
It's So Fine
Song for You
The Cannon and the Bell
At the Sea
Thomas Walsh's Pugwash (clearly named after the good captain) are the latest in a long and honourable line of 'intelligent pop' outfits, influenced by the 'B's - The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Big Star, The Byrds etc., not to mention later adherents such as XTC, Jellyfish and many others. Like most of the above (though not Badfinger, the other 'B'), Pugwash use tape-replay, although I've recently discovered that a lot of it's sampled, notably the whole of 2002's stupendous Almanac.
Ignoring 2003's Earworm, a compilation from Pugwash's first two albums, it was three years before Walsh produced his first album with any genuine 'Tron, 2005's Jollity. What can I say? More of the same: more gorgeous '60s-influenced material, more beautiful vintage keyboards, more melodies to die for. Opener It's Nice To Be Nice is the Beach Boys, complete with patented piano and banjo (!) parts - I kept expecting to hear Carl's high harmony line coming through. The rest of the album carries on in a similar vein, though mostly less overtly any one particular band; as I said, more of that Almanac stuff. Gorgeous.
As for the album's Mellotronic input, we get just the one real one; Walsh has managed a real coup by getting Dave Gregory (XTC/Dukes of Stratosphear) to play on a few tracks, including his own Mellotron on a couple - he's actually credited as 'The "Duke" of Mellotrons' on Lullaby #1, with a string part on Poles Together to boot. Another seven of the eleven tracks are stuffed with samples; mainly strings, plus flutes here and there (alongside real strings on A Rose In A Garden Of Weeds), and even brass and guitar 'tapes' on Anchor, most of the fakeotron played by Thomas Walsh and Duncan Maitland.
Three years on, and the pen of Thomas Walsh has written enough beautiful three-minute vignettes for another album. Eleven Modern Antiquities is every bit as good as you'd hope, with an even heavier XTC influence this time, although when you consider that Andy Partridge co-writes two songs, playing on one of them, that's hardly surprising. The most XTC-alike, Here, isn't one of his, either. I think it's the vocal melodies; Walsh seems to drop to the major seventh a lot (please excuse the technicality), in true late-period Partridge style. As with any album, there are stronger and weaker tracks here, although 'weaker' is a rather relative term, as nothing here makes you wish it hadn't been written, which is more than you can say for most singer-songwriter efforts.
The most real Mellotron on a Pugwash album yet; actually, I believe it's the same Novatron that was sampled for Almanac, now bought by Walsh; in fact, he seems to've credited it as 'Novatron' when it's real and 'Mellotron' when it isn't, which is handy. Anyway, it's on four songs out of the eleven; mostly strings, mostly played by Walsh, although Partridge plays (real?) 'Tron brass on his circus-like co-write At The Sea, along with acoustic guitar, kazoo and Swanee whistle (!). All in all, another triumph, Mr. Walsh. Now, how can we get more people to buy your wondrous records?
Anyway, if you listen to the above-named bands, or even if you don't, I really can't recommend all of these highly enough, to be honest; it's not every day that albums of this quality come along. Buy.
See: Samples | XTC | Duncan Maitland
Different Class (1995, 52.06) ****/½
Live Bed Show
Sorted for E's & Wizz
This is Hardcore (1998, 69.57) ****/TT
Help the Aged
This is Hardcore
A Little Soul
I'm a Man
The Day After the Revolution
We Love Life (2001, 54.02) ****/T
Weeds II (the Origin of the Species)
The Night That Minnie Timperley Died
I Love Life
The Birds in Your Garden
Bob Lind (the Only Way is Down)
|Bad Cover Version
Sheffield-based Pulp had been around for a good ten years before they finally broke through, proving that sometimes persistence does pay off. With geeky but charismatic frontman Jarvis Cocker leading from the front, the excellent Different Class showed the rest of the so-called Britpop movement how it should be done, combining the band's '60s influences with a modern sensibility to superb effect, particularly on deserved smash Common People, a Cocker rumination on class difference, written from (bitter) experience. It has to be mentioned at this point that Jarvis is the best lyricist Britain has coughed up in the last decade or two, with his pointed observations on what it means to come from a working-class northern town; ironic, given the band's (eventual) considerable success, but it's impossible to hold that against the band, given their continued excellence, especially in the face of their less-talented contemporaries. You know who they are.
Different Class is the only one of these three albums to specifically credit the Mellotron (played by Jarvis, along with a raft of other eclectic vintage gear), but the sound is such a mélange that it's rather difficult to pick out exactly where the 'Tron might have been used. It sounds like an ascending string line on driving opener Mis-Shapes and some backing chords on Live Bed Show, but it's really quite hard to tell. The album's strengths, though, aren't anything to do with its Mellotron content, but the incredible strength of the songwriting; Common People, Sorted For E's And Wizz, Mis-Shapes and F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E. are all abiding classics, holding up just as well six years and another two albums later.
This is Hardcore was a fine, if slightly belated follow-up, opening with one of the darkest songs to have been written by a so-called 'pop group' well, ever, really; The deep melancholy of The Fear sums up single life with a quite devastating accuracy, as against the laddish idiocy of many of their peers - "The sound of loneliness turned up to ten" indeed. With no Mellotron credited and a similar mixture of sounds to its predecessor, I'm rather guessing here as to which tracks (if any) contain the mighty 'Tron, especially given the string section on four tracks. I'm certain the pitchbends on the excellent Help The Aged are Mellotron, and the chord work on TV Movie sounds like it should be, too. There's an interesting mix of potentially-Mellotronic sounds on I'm A Man, including what may very well be brass on the key-clicky intro; the cheesy overlaid strings are definitely (?!) 'Tron. Sylvia's strings may well be, but the choir chord at the end is another definite. The rather extreme length of the album, by the way, is mainly due to the ten or so minutes of unadulterated one-chord solo string synth at the end of The Day After The Revolution, punctuated only by Jarvis intoning 'Goodbye' somewhere in the middle. Odd.
It took Pulp three years to come up with We Love Life, and it was (mostly) worth the wait. Several new classics, including The Night That Minnie Timperley Died, The Birds In Your Garden and the excellent Sunrise, although like so many modern albums, they could probably have trimmed a couple of tracks along the way. I wouldn't absolutely swear blind that there's any Mellotron on the record, but it sounds like 'Tron strings and flutes on The Birds In Your Garden to me, so it's staying here until proven otherwise.
So; three great albums, in the '60s/'90s pop crossover Pulp have made their own. None of these are the greatest Mellotron albums ever, but you should own 'em all anyway.
See: Jarvis Cocker | Richard Hawley
The Strands of the Future (1976) ****½/TTTTThe Strands of the Future
Halloween (1977, 39.10) ****½/TTTHalloween Song
Colours of Childhood
Sorrow in My Dreams
Dawn Over Darkness
Misty Garden of Passion
Fear of Frost
Pulsar were one of the best-known French progressives, actually having their first two albums released in the UK. Pollen (****) is pretty good, but its follow-up, The Strands of the Future is great, operating in the prog/space crossover area, complete with a side-long title suite; imagine symphonic prog with Hawkwind-style synths laid over the top, although they tone them down somewhat on side two. Jacques Roman's Mellotron use is pretty cool, too, with loads of strings and choir, plus Roland Richard's Solina, with the different string sounds complementing each other rather well, each being used where it sounds best. For strings, listen to Flight and Fool's Failure, with choirs on all three noted tracks, particularly The Strands Of The Future itself. Fabulous stuff.
Album no.3, Halloween, drops all the odd synthy stuff, going straight for the jugular with an all-out concept symphonic prog classic; certainly one of the best of its kind ever to issue from France. My Musea LP only reproduces the original story in French, although I think the CD version translates it, so I can't actually work out what it's about, but the music's fantastic, so I'm really not that bothered. After the odd 80-second Halloween Song, they launch straight into the killer Tired Answers, with a lengthy 'Tron flute piece, before one of the best Mellotron string parts, well, ever, to be honest. Unbeatable. Sadly, the rest of the album is largely 'Tron-free, although there's a few seconds of strings on Colours Of Childhood, and I still can't decide whether it's 'Tron or not on Dawn Over Darkness, so I've given it the benefit of the doubt.
So; great band, great Mellotron, although I don't believe anything they did after Halloween is really worth the effort. The wonderful Musea people have reissued their entire back catalogue, so these should both be easily available from the usual sources.
Purplene (2004, 41.31) **/½Love: Western
Scars for Sores
Watch the Watch
Going by their eponymous 2004 album (their second and last), Australia's Purplene played a kind of post-rockist indie, loved by some, not least a gushing critic in Rolling Stone. Why? A track or two of this stuff is OK, but eight tracks in forty-odd minutes is at least five tracks too many, its lack of energy coming across not so much as gentle or moody, but lethargic. The guitars manage the occasional slightly angular section (Scars For Sores) or thoughtful arpeggiated part (Second Shift), but nowhere near enough to relieve the tedium.
Dave Ledlin plays Mellotron, with a repeating background flute melody on The Battler that sounds like it might actually have emanated from a real machine, which makes a nice change. Overall, then, Purplene features the occasional reasonable track weighed down by the mediocrity of the rest, with very little Mellotron. Maybe not.
The Circle & the Blue Door (2013, 47.48) ****/TTTT
|Wake Up Sleepy Head
Sailor Wife's Lament
Leaning on a Bear
Tempest and the Tide
Mavericks and Mystics
Well Spoiled Machine
Desire's Magic Theatre (2016, 44.18) ***½/TTT½
|Desire's Magic Theatre
Dead Dodo Down
The Sky Parade
The Window Cleaner
The Way it is
The Bitter Suite
Purson (named for a variety of demon) are led by Ros(al)ie Cunningham, whose vaguely Grace Slick-esque vocals, early '70s-styled guitar work and period influences dominate their sound. Snapped up by Rise Above (to no-one's surprise), their debut, 2013's The Circle & the Blue Door, sits at a point perfectly balanced between hard rock, psych and wyrd folk, many of its tracks covering all three bases simultaneously. Comparisons have been made with the likes of Black Widow and Coven, but Purson are heavier than those outfits ever were, material like the superb Spiderwood Farm and Mavericks And Mystics cranking it up further than those outfits ever dared (though not, by modern standards, that far). Other highlights include the folky Sailor Wife's Lament, the amusingly-titled Well Spoiled Machine and the vaguely Sabbath-esque Sapphire Ward; to be honest, there isn't a bad track here, which isn't something you can say of too many albums these days.
Rosie plays my M400 on most tracks, with a flute melody and chordal strings on opener Wake Up Sleepy Head, Crimson-esque strings on The Contract, violas (I think; you'd have thought I'd know my own tapes by now, wouldn't you?) and flutes on Sailor Wife's Lament, a heavily-reverbed something (oboe? French horn?) and strings on Tempest And The Tide, an exceedingly brief solo flute part at the end of Mavericks And Mystics, strings in fifths on Well Spoiled Machine, little string swells in Sapphire Ward, background strings and a flute melody on Rocking Horse and, finally, chordal strings on closer Tragic Catastrophe. Does that make this a full-blown Mellotron Album? I think it does, with some excellent music into the bargain.
After leaving Rise Above, it's taken the band three years to follow up with 2016's Desire's Magic Theatre, although, I have to say, a slight lack of joie de vivre might be detectable in places, at least compared to its predecessor. Highlights include the rolling title track, the suitably Hendrixy Electric Landlady (old joke, though) and the bit in The Bitter Suite where everyone goes mad simultaneously, while the vaguely glammy Mr. Howard kicks off like the bastard child of Blackfoot Sue's Standing In The Road, which is no bad thing. Rosie plays my Mellotron again, with what amounts to a flute solo on the opening title track, vibes on Electric Landlady and Dead Dodo Down, a heavily psychedelic, phased string line on The Window Cleaner, strings on Mr. Howard and chordal flutes and strings on I Know and The Bitter Suite (although the cellos on both sounds real), and is that brass on The Bitter Suite? Another good effort, then, though perhaps with fewer highlights than before. Worth hearing, though.
Pussy Plays (1969, 35.53) ***½/½Come Back June
All of My Life
We Built the Sun
Tragedy in F Minor
The Open Ground
Pussy are yet another 'can't say I know a lot about them' band, especially since the demise of the online Borderline Books site (grrr). What I can tell you is that Pussy Plays is a rather good late-period psych album, almost crossing over into prog in places; the only comparison I can come up with (and it isn't that close) is early Yes in their Peter Banks/Tony Kaye first album phase, although the vocals are (unsurprisingly) far more mainstream. Hints of early Floyd, too, though these really are only the vaguest of pointers. Not a bad track on the album, with Comets being the most oft-quoted fave, with its bonkers Theremin work, leading one to opine, "Why didn't they make it?". Who knows? There are always dozens of factors in a band's success or otherwise, musical quality usually coming fairly low on the list.
On the Mellotron front, ignore any overenthusiastic reviewers who use phrases such as 'Mellotron-soaked' or similar; Tragedy In F Minor features some very upfront MkII 'Tron saxes at the beginning and end of the song, key-click and all, but that is absolutely your lot. So; an unfairly obscure album from a fascinating period, well worth hearing, but, despite its good use of an unusual sound, not a Mellotron Album in any way.
The Gathering of the Krums (1998, 42.11) ****/TTTTTInvitation
Pitch the Wort
Depth of Time
Pye Fyte are a rather odd proposition; extremely retro-prog from the States, with more than a nod towards late-'60s psychedelia, with none of the more contemporary influences of most current US outfits. Despite only being available on CD, The Gathering of the Krums is LP-length, and I wouldn't mind betting it wasn't just because the band only had 42 minutes'-worth of material. The songs are excellent, too, so don't think this is just some exercise in 'retro for the sake of it'. Most of the tracks are relatively short, leaving the album's two closers, Fields and Depth Of Time clocking up well over 20 minutes between them, allowing the band to stretch out compositionally, particularly with the repeated phrase that closes the record.
John McNamara's Mellotron work is extensive and excellent; every track is soaked in the thing, right at the front of the mix, even above the vocals at points. The bulk of the use is the ubiquitous strings, but flute melodies crop up here and there (particularly on Fields), and opener Invitation is loaded with choir. I can hear the odd bit of modern synth/sample-playback here and there, but against the Mellotronic onslaught, they don't stand a chance. Plenty of 'solo spots' ensure that this is one of the most full-on modern 'Tron recordings around. Quite superb.
The Gathering of the Krums is another of those 'because we can!' albums, akin to Norwegians The Smell of Incense's Through the Gates of Deeper Slumber, where the Mellotron use is completely gratuitous and all the better for it. Buy.
Pyramid (1976/1996?, 33.13) ***½/TT½Dawn Defender
The Pyramid album is one of three concurrent re-releases from the British Psi-Fi label, all apparently originally released in tiny numbers on the German Pyramid label in the mid-'70s. It has been suggested by one or two spoilsports that they are '90s fakes, but this one sounds far too authentic for that; what is possible is that it was recorded by stoned session men on their day off, supposedly in 1975/76, with the band name tacked on later. It's basically a half-hour jam, played by musicians who knew what they were doing, ebbing and flowing in all the right places. Tension and release, I believe it's called...
It sounds like two guitarists, bass, drums and keys, including our beloved Mellotron, which drifts in and out of the album's single track in best space-rock style. There's a short choir section at around five minutes, then some strings at ten, more choirs at 18 etc., with a particularly nice (and decidedly authentic) string part starting at around the half-hour mark, lasting until the end of the piece. This is yer typical stoned, trippy sort of mid-'70s stuff, but it's pretty good at it, and the Mellotron work is nice, if slightly sparse. Recommended for all spaceheads.
Journey to the Vast Unknown (1980 (81?), 41.54) ***/TJourney to the Vast Unknown
In to the in
When it Comes
After the Silence (1981, 40.47) ***½/TTTT
|After the Silence I
1st Movement: Introduction
Opus I: Diabolus in Musica
Opus II: Étude for Flying V
Opus III: Scherzo
3rd Movement: Endless Hymn
After the Silence II
Opus I: Turn
Opus II: Return
Opus I: Caprice
Opus II: Interludium
Opus III: Reprice
6th Movement: Scherzo Reprice
7th Movement: Grand Finale
Pythagoras were apparently formed when a young synthesizer nut, René de Haan, impressed record shop owner and professional drummer Bob de Jong enough for the duo to record a couple of albums together. 1980 (or '81)'s rather primitive Journey to the Vast Unknown is a rather ordinary, pretty typical synth release, albeit with the addition of de Jong's drums, most of de Haan's synths sounding as cheap as they were. The material's far more melodic (and clearly highly arranged) than many similar, but it's all a bit ponderous, lulling the listener to sleep after a while, making him miss de Haan's distant Mellotron choirs on side two's In To The In and When It Comes, not that they add that much to the album.
Their second (and last) release, '82's After the Silence (featuring several guest players), was a rather better effort, being more instrumental symphonic prog than EM as such, although there are too many moments of 'let's just let this one drift for a few minutes, shall we?' for it to be any real sort of classic. Saying that, it has several sublime moments, not least (and I'm guessing here) 5th Movement Opus II, where a string synth provides the fast string part, the Mellotron the chords, with the whole thing underpinned by future Ayreon supremo Arjen Lucassen's Taurus pedals. Nice.
De Haan's Mellotron isn't actually overused, with much of side one being 'Tron-free; much of his use is rather murky choirs, although the strings appear here and there. Plackband's Michel van Wassem guests on Novatron on 4th Movement Opus I, which may or may not explain the sustained choir chord (easily played on two 'Trons), although the effect is relatively easy to produce using one M400 loaded with 8-choir. Essentially, although what appears to be the album's longest track, side one's 3rd Movement: Endless Hymn is fairly 'Tron-heavy, it's side two's After The Silence II where you'll find most of the 'Tron action.
Anyway, while these aren't the greatest albums you'll ever hear (particularly their debut), being rather short on ideas in places, they're not at all bad, and the second features some great Mellotron work, not to mention bass pedals so high in the mix that they almost drown everything else out. Don't pay a fortune, but don't turn your nose up either.